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Daniel Broche

vu le nombre de sollicitations reçues sans rien demander je te confirme que c'est n'importe quoi: les investisseurs ne manquent pas dans le e-commerce
En revanche je crois qu'ils ont compris qu'il etait préférable de cibler les sites déjà rentables ou à l'équilibre.

Contrairement aux boites high tech ou un déficit peut se compenser tres confortablement par des revenus futurs récurrents, les pertes du e-commerce sont bien plus hasardeuses à recouvrir

Francis

tu as parfaitement raison, malheureusement, il n'y a pas de croissance forte et rapide dans le e-commerce sans pertes conséquentes. C'est souvent là qu'il est difficile de mettre d'accord un investisseur et un entrepreneur, d'autant que la pression du BFR est considérable dans ce métier.

david lefoye

Plus maintenant, c'est photoways avec 10 millions, bravo à eux.

http://www.journaldunet.com/ebusiness/commerce/actualite/0707/070720-photoways-levee-de-fonds-10-millions.shtml

On a l'impression de revivre les années 2000...c'est la course à la levée de fond, heureusement le e-commerce a muri et surtout les e-consommateurs ont grandi.


serge

Ah l'heure où la question de monétisation se pose chez Netvibes, il est parfois plus facile d'investir dans l'un des plus vieux métiers du monde... David, je ne suis pas entièrement d'accord avec toi concernant les années 2000, à cette époque, le consommateur éprouvait quelques difficultés à laisser son numéro de CB... Pas entièrement, parce que je vois aussi beaucoup de services web 2.0 s'appuyer essentiellement sur la publicité... Et là...

Francis

Bravo effectivement à toute l'équipe de Photoways, même si le CA et la maturité de l'entreprise est tout de même loin devant celle de Delamaison.fr
Je n'ai pas vraiment le sentiment que ce soit la course à la levée de fonds. Il est normal que des entreprises telles que Photoways poursuivent leur développement et en aient les moyens. La sous-capitalisation des start-up françaises reste un vraie problème, ainsi que le financement du premier tour.
Par ailleurs, le débat sur le business model des entreprises 2.0 est toujours ouvert. C'est maintenant que l'on va vraiment voir comment elles vont transformer de l'audience en argent, ou de l'audience en fumée.

David LEFOYE

Quand je parle des années 2000 et la course à la levée de fonds, c'est parce que j'ai l'impression de voir renaître un peu d'effervescence comme à cette époque et pas qu'autour du web 2.0, d'où ma réaction sur les levées de fonds par des e-commercants.

Je ne suis pas l'actualité financière de prêt, cela tient donc beaucoup plus du "sentiment" qu'autre chose mais j'avoue être agréablement surpris de voir des e-commercants réussir des levées de fond car même si les sollicitations peuvent être nombreuses, les investisseurs paraissaient échaudés et boudeurs après le faux départ des années 99/2000 (http://www.neteco.com/archives-33-0--page3.html)...donc voir des annonces comme celles-ci me rassure et tant mieux. Surtout pour les pure-players, qui semblent en avoir besoin pour franchir un nouveau cap qui leur permettrait de se structurer et justement profiter du fait qu'aujourd'hui, le consommateur n'hésite plus à sortir sa CB.
Internet est bien devenu un mode de consommation et pas seulement une façon de consommer à la mode, chose que les enseignes traditionnelles ont bien compris aussi.

Alors si effectivement, les investisseurs se cantonnent aux boutiques qui sont déjà rentables comme le souligne Daniel, il risque effectivement ne pas y avoir beaucoup d'élus et c'est bien dommage car il y en a sûrement qui méritent un coup de pouce qui leur permettrait justement de ne pas être prisonnier de leur trésorerie; pouvoir respirer et travailler à progresser sur des sujets structurants.

Donc peut-être que mon sentiment est erroné mais j'aime à croire que non :-)
http://www.neteco.com/archives-33-0-levee-de-fonds-page0.html

Concernant les modèles 2.0 basés sur la pub, là je crois que nous sommes "entièrement" d'accord, ils (toujours les investisseurs) ont bien retenus la leçon...

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